May 2, 2020: Notes On Messianism & The Messiah

Shabbat Shalom
Mashiach is here
Yechi Yechi Melech Hamashiach

Getting ready for #BibleStudy and a discussion of the Mashiach (Messiah).

Okay this is a pretty momentous week

The topic is momentous
The Bible portion is momentous
My emotions are momentous

I actually paused for a few minutes to discuss the news and such.
It is important to discuss the news.
Two topics that matter to people are @GenFlynn (a clear example of the weaponized state) and Biden (a clear example of cabal machinations to cover a pedo)

Joe Biden + pedo definition = sick

mentions + wolves = prey

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Andrew McCabe told Michael Flynn the ‘quickest way’ to resolve FBI interview was not to involve the White House Counsel"The agents did not provide General Flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement…"

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Obama Warned Trump About Hiring Flynn, Officials SayFormer President Barack Obama warned Donald J. Trump in their conversation in the Oval Office two days after the election.

May 8, 2017

Facts wake us up.
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Rose McGowan Denounces Democratic Party, Calls the Media a CultActress Rose McGowan who used to be a lifelong Democrat is now denouncing her former party over their hypocrisy on sexual assault. It’s only bad if a Republican is accused of it even if there

Facts wake us up and patterns wake us up too.
Remember, Rose McGowan was raised in a cult.

https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1254973077496176641

So this week’s Bible portion is about some fundamental truths, and when you hear them they wake you up, and we will get to that.

But first let’s talk about the pinned tweet.

What you see is a crown, obviously, on top.

And the word "Mashiach" or Messiah, written in Hebrew.

Mem מ
Shin שׁ
Yud י
Chet ח

משׁיח

One moment, I am looking for something.

The image is a "brand," so to speak, or a symbol of the belief that the Lubavitcher Rebbe (may he rest in peace) is the Messiah.

The Rebbe never encouraged this.

Most Jews do not believe this.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_…

Again, now that he is deceased, most Jews do not believe the Rebbe is messiah, although when he was alive we certainly might have.

Stay with me.

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Nevertheless there are those who believe.

If you visit Israel or Crown Heights and you see a sign like the yellow one, with the crown and the word "Messiah" in Hebrew, it is a reference to "the Rebbe" as the messiah.

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Here is another example.

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Now the question comes up, how do we know that the flag represents the Lubavitcher Rebbe as opposed to a general belief in the Mashiach (Messiah)?

Because of the prayers said by Chabad routinely, even though they are incorrect.

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(To clarify, "Chabad" is the philosophy; "Lubavitch" is the hometown from which this Jewish messianist movement originates.)

(Also full disclosure, I am an adherent of Chabad.)

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About Chabad-Lubavitch – About Chabad-LubavitchChabad-Lubavitch is a philosophy, a movement, and an organization. It is considered to be the most dynamic force in Jewish life today.

This is 770 Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn, New York, the headquarters of Chabad-Lubavitch.

The Rebbe passed away in 1994.

However, as of 2006, the belief that he was nevertheless the Messiah was still going strong.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/770_Easte…

Messianism is core to the Chabad-Lubavitch movement and messianism is the hidden topic of this week’s Torah (Bible) portion.

But to believe in a Messiah that has passed away is not Jewish.

A minority of the adherents of the Chabad movement (as of 2017) have found a way around that problem by deciding that although the Rebbe passed away, he is actually not deceased.

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What percentage of Chabad still believes their Rebbe is the Messiah?Are there any statistics as to what percentage of Chabad still believes that their Rebbe is the Messiah? Is it the majority or simply a very vocal minority? Have there been any serious studies made..…

This is a current screenshot of a Hebrew-language Chabad website.
You can see the date on the upper left in Hebrew.
The second screenshot shows that it matches today’s date.
The website shows a photo of the Rebbe.

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אני לא חבדניקית אבל רק שתדעו……. – חב”ד.אפ אםשלום אני לא חבדניקית אלא חרדית רגילה ובמקרה נכנסתי לפה…

In Hebrew the words say, "The Lubavitcher Rebbe, The King of the Messiah," and then there is an abbreviation, "Shlita," that in English means "May He Live For Many Good Days."

הרבי מליובאוויטש מלך המשיח שליט"א

But he has passed.

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In 2002, writing in the Canadian Jewish News, Martin Lockshin observed that the stubborn belief that the Lubavitcher Rebbe was the messiah, despite his passing, resembled Christianity.

"Messianism in Chabad-Lubavitch challenges Jews of all denominations to consider the limits of Jewish theology," he wrote.

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Chabad Messianism | My Jewish LearningMessianism in Chabad-Lubavitch challenges Jews of all denominations to consider the limits of Jewish theology.

"Our long-awaited messiah and redeemer arrived! Most Jews failed to recognize that he was the messiah, but we, his disciples, did. Tragically, he died before completing the redemptive process. But he will soon be resurrected and will continue and complete his messianic tasks."

"Until just 12 years ago, this profession of faith was easily recognizable. It was the distinctive formulation of the Christian credo," wrote Lockshin.

"In an amazing development, a significant number of pious, Sabbath-observant, religious Jews–ostensibly ‘Orthodox’ Jews–have now adopted this worldview and attempted to declare it kosher."

"The death of one of the greatest rabbis of the 20th century, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneersohn…left the Lubavitch movement without any central, recognized authority."

"Many of his followers insisted that he was the long-awaited messiah, and that all Jews were obligated to recognize him in that role."

"there is absolutely no precedent for Jews to continue to consider a person the messiah after his death."

"Before 1993, no Jew, other than a Jew for Jesus, affirmed that a specific individual who had initiated a messianic mission and then died in an unredeemed world was actually the messiah."

So, to summarize.

There is a thing called "The Messianic Process" – see graphic.

It consists of 3 steps:

1. Belief in Messiah as a phenomenon.
2. Actual person who is the Messiah.
3. State of redemption.

Within the belief in "The Messianic Process" there is theological disagreement about:

1. Who Messiah is or was

2. Whether Messiah can be someone who has already passed away

3. Whether one of the individuals thought to be the Messiah has stayed alive despite supposed death

Let me stop and look at what you’re saying before we go to Part 2.

mentions asked if Jews believe in an "anti-Messiah," like the Antichrist, and I think a good answer is that although we don’t believe in an Antichrist, we are very cautious about making that "declaration," because we’ve been wrong before.

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Six Failed Messiahs From Jewish HistoryEver since Jesus came along in the first century of the common era, claiming to be the son of God and the messiah, there have been a lot of would-be Messiahs. Here are six!

In addition, we know that the Sabbateans, followed by the Frankists, have wreaked spiritual destruction on the world of the likes that most people cannot even imagine.

Recommended reading: "The Mixed Multitude: Jacob Frank and the Frankist Movement, 1755-1816"

The key word here is: Mixed Multitude which in Hebrew is EREV RAV

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Basically, Jacob Frank crowned himself the heir to Sabbatai Tzvi, the false messiah.

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SabbateanismUniquely in the history of rabbinic Judaism, which exempted women from much of its formal cult, and which generally barred them from all positions of public office and authority, Sabbateanism display…

And the resulting cult embraced the idea that God would have to redeem the world if people became ultimately evil.

Jacob Frank and his followers were excommunicated from Judaism and converted to Christianity.

Before him, Sabbatai Zevi converted to Islam.

Neither conversion stopped them.

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Sacred Orgies: the Extremist Sabbatean Sect of Jacob FrankDuring the 18th century, small Sabbatean groups were founded. In order to defeat this threat, the rabbinical authorities declared a war against the Sabbateans.

The belief that being ultimately evil will cause the world to be redeemed is called antinomianism.

""This antinomianism of the Shabbateans and the Frankists was connected with their messianic claims"

jewishvirtuallibrary.org/antinomianism

"and was based on the Talmudic statement that in the messianic period all commandments would be abolished,"

"all sacrifices would disappear, except for the sacrifice of thanksgiving" (Lev. R. 9: 7; 27: 12),

and that all fasts would be converted into feasts.

I have to go now.

Meanwhile, a reference link:
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Excommunicated Jews and the Jesuit Deep State: Thread of ThreadsDannielle Blumenthal’s blog. Musings on marketing, organizational development, memories, and life.

More later, with God’s help.

Okay.

I’m back to talk about the Messiah again.

Messianic age–>
Messianic figure–>
Redemption.

In the context of this week’s Torah (Bible) portion, Acharei Mot-Kedoshim.

So far I’ve tried to show you that a substantial number of Jews, just like Christians, are into Messianism.

It is a matter of faith.

It is also a matter of coping.

Let’s face it, we live in a scary world.
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The roots of Messianism are not however psychological (a need for salvation) but theological.

Let’s go with this summary of Jewish prophecy:

1. Jews redeemed from exile (to Israel)
2. Restoration of the Temple
3. Davidic Messiah leads era justice & peace
4. Great awakening – monotheism
5. Resurrection of the dead

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Here is a visual depiction of what history looks like from this point of view.

Stage 1 – the descent from total and utter spirituality – is ending.

Steps:
– Creation
– Physical World
– Illusion
– Temptation
– Sin
– Struggle for Survival
– Prophetic warning
– Greed
– Oppression
– War
– Mental & physical exile

We are in mid-Stage 2.

Steps:
– Exercise of free choice
– Liberation movements

WE ARE HERE

– Ethical military
– Positive technology
– Mass empowerment
– Great awakening
– The final war
– National restoration
– Israel Judaized
– Messiah crowned
– Holy Temple rebuilt

When this stage is done (it will include a final war) we head to Stage 3.

Steps:

– All worship God together
– Resurrection of the dead
– Return of the prophets
– Peace and prosperity
– Human exist as spirit

Here is another visualization of human history.

– Stage 1: Spirit, condemned, descent
– Stage 2: Matter, in struggle, choice
– Stage 3: Spirit, salvation, ascent

Imagine that by looking at history in this way, you have removed yourself from your particular religion or non-religion and simply taken a "God’s eye view" of the world.

It should be simple for everyone to agree that God loves all His children.

God wants to bring all close.

The purpose of descent is ascent.

The journey, although this is hard to understand, is a form of giving.

When you struggle to comprehend the fact that God exists, regenerates the world, and gives to us daily, you grow.

This growth process is what God wants us to have.

In studying the Bible, the primary distinction is not between Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and so on.

The distinction is between those who worship God, and those who worship "foreign gods," false gods, Molech, and so on, as a form of rebellion.

Now – this is not to say that religion is irrelevant.

For reasons that I do not exactly understand, we need to have the various religions right now.

But we learn, chapter and verse, that this will not be the case in the future.

In the time of the messiah, Jews and non-Jews alike will serve God in the Holy temple.

In the time of the messiah, the 613 commandments will not exist, and fast days will be turned into feast days.

Let me get the verses.

This is taking some time because it’s complicated.

OK, I found what I was looking for; bear with me.

We are in Deuteronomy 13, the entire chapter.

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Verse 2: "If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,"

Verse 3: "and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, ‘Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them,’

Verse 4: "you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream;"

"for the Lord, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul."

Never once, and please correct me if I am wrong, but never once did Jesus ever tell the Jewish people to worship other Gods, or to break the Torah.

I am not suggesting here that Jews should convert to Christianity. I am simply pointing out that Jesus can be viewed as a prophet.

Christianity was developed after his passing.

Jews believe that "the spirit of prophecy departed" around the time of the Second Temple prophets. Later Jewish figures cannot be considered prophets, but I believe that Jesus can.

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Why Are There No More Prophets? – Questions & AnswersWith the death of the latter prophets Chagai, Zechariah and Malachi, “the spirit of prophecy departed.”

In contrast, the Lubavitcher Rebbe was not a prophet, and his response when people called him the messiah or similar was this:

"There are evidently people who are in need of crutches."

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Did the late Lubavicher Rebbe consider himself a to be a prophet and/or the mashiach?There are strong suggestions within Chabad literature that the Rebbe was considered to be a prophet (Devar Malchut, see below). Some suggest that the Rebbe himself didn’t do enough to discourage his

But what about the verse?

What we read in Maimonides:

1) Although the Jews who broke away to create Christianity should not be followed (they are considered "renegades,")

2) Christianity and Islam will pave the way for the coming of the Messiah, when all will worship God together.

Who is Maimonides?

He is a medieval codifier of Jewish law (among other things) whose word is considered authoritative by Jewish people.

We are in Maimonides’ "Laws of Kings and Their Wars" ("Melachim uMilchamot"), Chapter 11.

Here he is talking about the Messianic age, and the importance of literally waiting for the Messiah.

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Maimonides states (Chapter 1, Verse 1) that anyone who does not actively believe the Messiah, or wait for his coming, is a heretic.

"וְכָל מִי שֶׁאֵינוֹ מַאֲמִין בּוֹ. אוֹ מִי שֶׁאֵינוֹ מְחַכֶּה לְבִיאָתוֹ. לֹא בִּשְׁאָר נְבִיאִים בִּלְבַד הוּא כּוֹפֵר."

Maimonides sources the belief in the Messiah to Deuteronomy 30:3-5

(here I am correcting my earlier assertion that the source of belief in Messiah was prophecy)

"God will bring back your captivity and have mercy upon you. He will again gather you from among the nations… Even if your Diaspora is at the ends of the heavens, God will gather you up from there… and bring you to the land…."

Maimonides also sources the belief in Messiah to Number 24:17-18, where the non-Jewish prophet Bilaam prophesies about King David and the ultimate Messiah, who will be of the Davidic line.

Bilaam says:

Numbers 24:17

17 “I see him, but not now;
I behold him, but not near.
A star will come out of Jacob;
a scepter will rise out of Israel.
He will crush the foreheads of Moab,
the skulls of all the people of Sheth.

Numbers 24:18

"18 Edom will be conquered;
Seir, his enemy, will be conquered,
but Israel will grow strong."

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Translation via Bible Gateway
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Bible Gateway passage: Numbers 24:17-18 – New International Version“I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come out of Jacob; a scepter will rise out of Israel. He will crush the foreheads of Moab, the skulls of all the people of Sheth. Edom…

Maimonides interpreting Bilaam:

"’I see it, but not now’ – This refers to David;

‘I perceive it, but not in the near future;" – This refers to the Messianic king;

‘A star shall go forth from Jacob’ – This refers to David;"

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"’and a staff shall arise in Israel’ – This refers to the Messianic king;

‘crushing all of Moab’s princes’ – This refers to David as II Samuel 8:2 relates: ‘He smote Moab and measured them with a line;’"

"’decimating all of Seth’s descendants’ – This refers to the Messianic king about whom Zechariah 9:10 prophesies: ‘He will rule from sea to sea.’

‘Edom will be demolished’ – This refers to David as II Samuel 8:6 states ‘Edom became the servants of David;’"

"’Seir will be destroyed’ – this refers to the Messianic king as Ovadiah 1:21 prophesies: ‘Saviors will ascend Mount Zion to judge the mountain of Esau….’"

Maimonides, continued, Laws of Kings and Wars, Chapter 11, Verse 3

"One should not presume that the Messianic king must work miracles and wonders, bring about new phenomena in the world, resurrect the dead, or perform other similar deeds. This is definitely not true."

"The main thrust of the matter is: This Torah, its statutes and its laws, are everlasting. We may not add to them or detract from them."

This is why Jews can’t accept Christianity AS IT WAS DEVELOPED AFTER JESUS’ DEATH, when observing the 613 commandments was no longer required.

Let’s continue on.

Verse 4: "If a king will arise from the House of David who diligently contemplates the Torah and observes its mitzvot [commandments] as prescribed by the Written Law and the Oral Law as David, his ancestor,"

"[and] will compel all of Israel to walk in (the way of the Torah) and rectify the breaches in its observance, and fight the wars of God, we may, with assurance, consider him Mashiach."

"If he succeeds in the above, builds the Temple in its place, and gathers the dispersed of Israel, he is definitely the Mashiach."

"He will then improve the entire world, motivating all the nations to serve God together, as Tzephaniah 3:9 states: ‘I will transform the peoples to a purer language that they all will call upon the name of God and serve Him with one purpose.’"

Read that again slowly.

Biblical prophecy (Tzephaniah 3:9) states clearly that in the messianic age THERE WILL BE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN BELIEVERS.

Do you see how we currently look at the world as divided this way?

Really we should look at the world as divided this way?

Serve God (A, B, C)
___

Don’t Serve God (A, B, C)

In Messianic times it will only be this.

Maimonides continues:

"If he did not succeed to this degree or was killed, he surely is not the redeemer promised by the Torah. Rather, he should be considered as all the other proper and complete kings of the Davidic dynasty who died."

"God caused him to arise only to test the many, as Daniel 11:35 states: ‘And some of the wise men will stumble, to try them, to refine, and to clarify until the appointed time, because the set time is in the future.’"

Maimonides states that Jesus thought he was the Messiah, but was not.

Maimonides writes: "Even Jesus of Nazareth, who imagined that he would be the messiah, was put to death by [judgment in a Roman] court."

(I am not sure Jesus thought this – more on this in a moment.)

Maimonides writes: "Daniel had already prophesied about him — ‘The renegades among your people will exalt themselves in an attempt to fulfill the vision, but they will stumble.’" (Daniel 11:14)

But Jesus was humble, and Christianity was invented later.

Now, keep in mind that Maimonides lived during the Crusades.

jewishvirtuallibrary.org/christian-crus…

Yet despite having every reason to fear and hate Christians, Maimonides wrote: "Ultimately, all the deeds of Jesus of Nazareth and that Ishmaelite [i.e., Mohammad] who came after him, only serve to pave the way for the arrival of King Messiah.*

I want to come back to the discussion of Jesus, but first let’s answer the question about the commandments.

How will we observe them all together as a world?

The answer is that "they will come naturally"

beta.moshiach.com/index.php/faq/…

In the world we currently live in, the purpose of commandments is to elevate the animal soul.

In the future world, there will be no temptation.

And so what it means to observe a commandment "naturally," and all of us together, is kind of hard to comprehend.

And to be honest, there is a certain amount of provincialism in the Jewish writing, meaning that the implications of a future redeemed world, where we ALL observe Torah as naturally as breathing – all as one – this is hard to fathom.

Over and over again we read that the Messiah is coming for everyone.

"Though Mashiach comes first and foremost to Israel, all the nations will recognize his wisdom and sublimity and submit to his rule. He will guide and instruct them as well."

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The Personality of Mashiach – Moshiach 101

Again, Maimonides: "All the gentile nations will come to hear him [Messiah] as [Isaiah 2:2] states: "And it shall come to pass in the last days that the mountain of God’s house shall be established at the peak of the mountains… [and all the nations shall flow to it]."

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Let’s talk briefly about Jesus giving the credit to God, which he did.

John 14:9 "Jesus answered: "Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?"

John 14:10 "Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work."

Jesus said that God lived in him, dwelled in him, and worked through him.

He believed that he was Godly.

He did not believe that he was God.

Mark 11:22 and 24, "And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God….Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours."

Hebrews 12:2 "We do this by keeping our eyes on Jesus, the champion who initiates and perfects our faith. Because of the joy awaiting him, he endured the cross, disregarding its shame. Now he is seated in the place of honor beside God’s throne."

Even if Jesus did believe himself to be the Messiah, as Rabbi Shmuley Boteach points out in "Kosher Jesus," he would only be one in a series. This in and of itself is not sacreligious or irreligious.

The point is, even if you look at authoritative Jewish sources, whether that be the medieval Maimonides writing during the Crusades, or Rabbi Shmuley Boteach writing in 2012, we are headed toward a future that will unify people in service as never before.

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You may or may not have seen the Gematria arguing that @POTUS is the Messiah.

While that might sound wild, for a lot of reasons, it does fit in with the notion of the Great Awakening.

Certainly if @POTUS is the anointed one (and I don’t want to get into that too much right now), it does provide us with another way of looking at history. For perhaps there is a corrective function at work here.

In other words, the failings of one religion are addressed by the strengths of the others, and it is in the amalgamation that we have a wisdom apprehending what it means to truly serve.

In Messianic times, when there is no Satan to confuse us, we will understand.

At the very least, what I hope you’ve gotten from this discussion is that much of what we think is true about the Messiah, is probably not really true.

Who we see as "not-us," is probably closer to us than we think.

And what we understand as the enemy, is often invisible.

This week’s Torah portion, Acharei-Kedoshim, alludes to the essence of evil. This is the evil that will be eliminated when Redemption comes.

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Acharei-Kedoshim in a Nutshell – Texts & Summaries – ParshahOn holiness, and love, and holiness in love, and holy love.

"The Parshah of Acharei also warns against bringing korbanot (animal or meal offerings) anywhere but in the Holy Temple, forbids the consumption of blood, and details the laws prohibiting incest and other deviant sexual relations."

All practices of the idol worshipers.

"’The Parshah of Kedoshim begins with the statement: “You shall be holy, for I, the L‑rd your G‑d, am holy.’ This is followed by dozens of mitzvot (divine commandments) through which the Jew sanctifies him- or herself and relates to the holiness of G‑d."

"These include: the prohibition against idolatry, the mitzvah of charity, the principle of equality before the law, Shabbat, sexual morality, honesty in business, honor and awe of one’s parents, and the sacredness of life."

"Also in Kedoshim is the dictum which the great sage Rabbi Akiva called a cardinal principle of Torah, and of which Hillel said, ‘This is the entire Torah, the rest is commentary”—’Love your fellow as yourself.’"

Holiness.

We’ve spent most of our time on this planet in descent from it, not seeing it, running away from it, when it was our sole reason for incarnating here.

"The Sages and the prophets did not yearn for the Messianic era in order to have dominion over the entire world, to rule over the gentiles, to be exalted by the nations, or to eat, drink, and celebrate."

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Maimonides – Laws Pertaining to The MessiahIn this post we will read about Maimonides, the laws pertaining to the Messiah and find out what really are the laws. Read on to find out.

"Rather, they desired to be free to involve themselves in Torah and wisdom without any pressures or disturbances, so that they would merit the world to come, as explained in Hilchot Teshuvah."

"In that era, there will be neither famine or war, envy or competition for good will flow in abundance and all the delights will be freely available as dust. The occupation of the entire world will be solely to know God."

"Therefore, the Jews will be great sages and know the hidden matters, grasping the knowledge of their Creator according to the full extent of human potential, as Isaiah 11:9 states: ‘The world will be filled with the knowledge of God as the waters cover the ocean bed.""

Ending the thread here, although there’s much more to say, and I am not sure how we all, as humanity, observe commandments, in Messianic times, when

"the Torah will be seen as the only true religion." (Isaiah 2,3; 11,10; Micah 4,2-3; Zechariah 14,9).

mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/mashiac…

I’ll try to look into this some more, as I do recall seeing something about the commandments no longer existing, but this contradicts the other sources given above that say they only intensify.

Thanks for reading.

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P.S. This literally always happens to me – I found a key source after completing the thread.

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Will there be free will and a purpose to doing good in the messianic era?I recently saw this question in the new Christianity stack exchange site, and it reminded me of a question I meant to ask as a follow-up to this question. With the assumption that evil exists so t..…

Question: "Will there be free will and a purpose to doing good in the messianic era?"

Answer: "The Lubavitcher Rebbe explains that there are 3 general periods of time."

1) "Nowadays, before the times of Moshiach."

2) "After Moshiach comes, the Rambam says that the world will continue to function like nowadays, and Mitzvos will continue like nowadays (just in the ultimate manner)."

3) During the Ressurection period, "Mitzvos", as "commandments" will be nullified. However, "Halachos" will not, meaning that nowadays we need "mitzvos" to connect ourselves to Hashem (Mitzvah is from the word "Tzavsa", or connection)."

"In this third period of time, our bodies will naturally be nullified to Hashem, and our bodies will physically be unable to violate a commandment."

"It says in the Midrash that Hashem created the wold because he wanted a dwelling place in the lower worlds. Meaning, that the lower worlds (physicality) should be nullified to Hashem. So, in reality, this period is for what Hashem created the world."

Links for those who want to pursue.
hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?…
chabad.org/dailystudy/ram…
sichosinenglish.org/books/to-live-…

I have a deeper answer, and while I know this makes for an interminably long thread you will want to read it.

"With the assumption that evil exists so that we have free will and that it gives purpose to doing good….what will happen in the messianic era when there will be no evil? Can we conclude that there will be no free will or purpose to doing good in the World to Come?

"As to the purpose of Torah and Mitzvos when Moshiach comes, see Tanya Igeret Hokodesh Epistle 26:"

chabad.org/library/tanya/…

"But when the Shechinah will emerge from kelipat nogah [or: from the kelipot], after the extraction of the sparks will be completed, and the evil of the kelipot will be separated from the good of holiness, “and all the workers of evil will be dispersed,”

"and the Tree of [Knowledge of] Good and Evil (which is of kelipat nogah and which prevails during the time of exile) will no longer be dominant, because the good will have departed from it,"

["Kelipat nogah is influential only by virtue of its minimal component of good; as soon as this is extracted, kelipat nogah will have no dominion whatever."]

"then people will engage in the study of Torah and in the observance of the commandments not in order to extract the sparks, as in the present,"

**"but in order to bring about the consummation of yichudim (“unions” or “marriages” of Sefirot) more sublime than those which are effected through our present Torah study — in order to call forth more sublime lights, transcending Atzilut."**

In other words, the purpose of the commandments in the future will not be to reveal holiness, but to raise holy sparks to even higher levels of combined holiness.

I know that sounds awkward and hope you understand.

"This is explained in the writings of R. Isaac Luria, of blessed memory."

From me – the point of this thread is NOT to tell you that a certain religion is right or wrong….it is to point out the ultimate unity between all of us, and the fact that (as Maimonides points out) we do not understand God’s ways.

As Maimonides states in Laws of Kings:

"Nevertheless, the intent of the Creator of the world is not within the power of man to understand,* for, [to paraphrase Isaiah 55:8,] His ways are not our ways, and His thoughts are not our thoughts."

"[Ultimately,] all the deeds of Jesus of Nazareth * and [the activities of] that Ishmaelite [i.e., Mohammad] * who came after him, only serve to pave the way for the arrival of King Messiah.*"

Additionally (and this is from a translation here)

"Maimonides does not rule out the possibility that the Messianic candidate begins his efforts outside the Land of Israel – "around him," wherever he lives."

nathanielsegal.mysite.com/MTMlc11.html

This again leads me back to thinking that President Trump is somehow the Messiah, or at least a precursor to the Messiah, because he is beginning The Great Awakening in America.

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Biblical Numerology Predicts Trump Will Usher in MessiahGematria, or Hebrew numerology, is is a widely-accepted system of understanding the hidden meaning and layers of the word of God as written in the Hebrew Bible.

There is also this phrase, in Maimonides, "[that the Messiah would be] defeating all the enemy peoples around him," censored in European editions due to the fear of Christian/Muslim wrath; but if we are talking about a hidden Jew, perhaps @POTUS defeating the DS, makes sense.

Anyway – more another time. Thanks for reading.

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By Dr. Dannielle Blumenthal. All opinions are the author’s own. Public domain.

By Dr. Dannielle Blumenthal. All opinions are the author’s own. Public domain.